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If the court appoints a lawyer for my children, so they get to speak, and it is unbiased,,, is it ethical that the lawyer is meeting with my Ex husband, and NOT with my son??? 

The office of the Children's Lawyer upon appointment should set up an appointment with both parents prior to meeting with the child. They also will have you fill out an I depth questionnaire to better understand the issues and concerns of both parties. Following that, they will meet with the child at their office, and sometimes at school. They may also request releases of information to speak to other relevant parties.

They will meet with both. I am in the middle of this now. Everyone involved will be spoke with for all information.

the lawyer never met with me. he met with my ex, and not my son. then told the court that my son wanted to live with the ex... doesn't quite seem right , when the lawyer is supposed to be my sons voice, not another voice for my ex

That is very, very strange. If you are not the custodial parent perhaps they do not have to meet with you, I am not certain, but you should have been mailed a very detailed package detailing the process and including forms requiring your attention.

the cfs lawyer admitted that my son was begging the worker to come home but thiis lawyer lied and said he didn't want to see me without protection. this was coming from my ex, not my son!

and as far as stuff in writing,,, cfs has refused since day one to put anything in writing. in a year and a half I have never gotten one piece of paper from CFS

I have had custody for the last 12 years,, till the Ex found a young, dumb worker to fall for his crap.. The Judge had previously warned him to stop harassing me and making false claims to CFS,, yet he managed to pull it off.. The worker was a friend of his,, go figure. He couldnt win in court for the last 10 years..

Huge problems with ocl. There is no oversight on them. Told my husband the courts are biased to woman. My husbands daughters mother has three assault convictions, excessive alcoholic, convicted of fraud. They told him she has the right to see a 13 year old unsupervised. Never even bothered to interview her step mother.....me. We are looking for recourse....suggestions?

the role of a children's lawyer is to convey only the wishes and preferences to the court for a child who is mature enough to speak up for themselves. The lawyer has no obligation to meet with the parents at all. The child is the client of the...See More

That is what I thought. Is there anywhere can I file a report against the lawyer? And is there any where to file a complaint about the judge for not allowing the child to speak?

Report the misconduct, conflict of interest relating to lawyers and licensed paralegals

If you feel that your lawyer did not do their job properly or behaved unprofessionally, you can make a complaint to the Law Society of Upper Canada (LSUC)

Record your conversations with the cfs worker, and others relevant to this matter, at All times. Then you will have proof that the cfs worker acknowledged your sons' wishes/preferences. Would like to double check the section of the Criminal Code - isn't is 183.1 advocates? Right to audio record 

Is it the law review society or something? If they can be proven to have done their job in ignorance of the rules they can have their licence to practice pulled. With CAS lawyers, since CAS is their client they can't be disbarred, but this lawyer who acted against your child, can. And I disagree with the courts being biased against "women". The courts are just biased to a white hetero normative judgement. The farther you are from being a white person with lots of money, well spoken, and of a clean-cut attractive appearance, the more likely they will rule against you, no matter what your gender. I've been in court many times (as a spectator) and that seems to be the way it goes. 

they pick on people who financially can't defend themselves. single parents seem to be their favorite target

Kids never really get theirsay, if they did, the kids with be with the parent they want to be with. Time to stop hurting our children.

full stop, I just read your other messages. First of all, submit your evidence directly to the court. Get a new lawyer, or just fire the one you have. No lawyer is better than one who refuses to enter evidence that will help your case. Bottom line. Your lawyer works for YOU not CAS.

Ugh, that no lawyer sentence was so confusing. I meant it would be better not to have a lawyer, than have that one. And no, they don't care if you're a single parent. My husband and I were hapilly married, educated, employed and making good money when they first showed up at our door. Based on an obviously false claim from a woman who was mad at my husband for refusing to sleep with her, they destroyed my marriage, lost me my job, and traumatized my children. CAS doesn't care who you are. I have a friend working at a high level of government and they've even been at her door. They're like the S.S. That's what you create when you make legislation that gives a private corporation thrme power to do whatever they want without recourse.

Since the system is corrupt, a lawyer selected by the "system" will NOT necessarily reflect the voice of the child, but the voice of the system. This is indeed a conflict of interest and collusion.

You need to get access to the child and have their true wishes independently recorded. Sometimes a psychologist selected by the parents that can submit an expert report that includes observations various parties are trying to put words in the child's mouth.

One child I worked with who was wanting to return home, was booted out of a courtroom at age 11, the judge ruling it was not in the child's best interest to hear the proceedings, yet the rest of the public could stay.

Next, over the course of a year social workers and foster parents "worked" on the child, meaning bribes, promises of a nice holiday in Disneyland, cash, shopping, friends visits, you name it.

Once they got the child to agree to stay in care, THEN a lawyer was assigned. This was a specialist that ensures parents cannot refute their child's "wishes". The child was further pronounced PTSD, another Supreme Court justice used that as a further basis to prevent in-court testimony. The magnitude of manipulation at all levels to ensure the state has the advantage and the true voice of the child simply cannot be understated.

Later, with the help of another advocate, and the incredible luck of unsupervised access, the child understood what was going on and decided to instruct the lawyer to say to the court the wish was to return home. The child "protectors" withdrew. The child went home. End of story.
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